he is the author of "after mandela, the struggle for freedom in post-apartheid south africa." mr. foster, thank you for coming on, sir. president mandela has been out of politics for a long time. he's been certainly out of the government for a long time. >> that's right. since 1999. >> right. jacob zuma is the president right now. when you speak of after mandela, we have been in the after mandela period, or are you referring to something else? >> well, in a sense we have been in an after mandela period but as long as the old man as he's known in south africa was alive, there was a sense in which he exercised a kind of moral persuasion in the country so i think now, today, with the death of nelson mandela at the age of 95, we begin to enter a period where people really deal with the psychological, cultural and political consequences of the grandfather of the nation passing on. >> will there be new divisions? i'm not thinking about culture, i just don't know enough biabou it but i wonder about politics, business and the economy. south africa as you know, sir, has a very, very high u